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Sometimes circumstances conspire to lead you in directions that you might not be ready to travel, but will eventually be a good move for you. For years, I have been saying I was going to shoot some YouTube videos, and never took the first step. I’m sure my friends and kids were tired of hearing me “plan” my Hollywood debut. Well, last night I took the plunge and christened the bluechipmachineshop channel.

 

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Kurt Milling Machine Vise Rebuild

A while back I picked up an older Kurt D60 vise complete with no jaws and 40 pounds of swarf on C-List for $95. It was in pretty fair shape, with only one really substantial divot, but it was stiff and grungy. I tossed it on my workbench, and used it to grab stuff for a while until I sold my offshore mill vise to John Leatherman at the CAMS Yardsale. There was nothing wrong with the Chi-Vise, but the Kurts just work so much better. A month or so later, I found a decent Kurt swivel base on Ebay for about fifty bucks. All I needed was a set of jaws, and some T-bolts to get started. I ordered a rebuild kit and some table keys while I was at it. The total expenditure for the vise, swivel base and parts was about $225.
The entire “rebuild” took about 5 or 6 hours, mainly due to taking pics, and the fact that I had never taken this type of vise apart before. After having done it once, I could probably get the job done in a couple, maybe three hours. I wasn’t going for a “Pebble Beach” restoration, I just wanted to get a functional vise back on my mill, and figgered I’d throw a little money at it to make it a little better. I could have skipped the overhaul kit, as the existing parts were all good, but the kit cost $10, so why not? The finished product looks just marginally better, but functions smooth as silk. I’m glad I spent the time to get it apart for a good cleaning.
The total tools used were 3 or 4 Allen wrenches, and some wet stones of various grits. The vise was given a real good cleaning in my parts cleaner before I started the dissassembly. Heres what I started with………mvc-090f

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Dissassembly, starting with removing the allen bolts from the fixed (rear) jaw…………..mvc-093f
Then removing the movable jaw. This requires removing the lock ring off of the main screw, then just backing the screw out.mvc-094f
Here we are 5 minutes into the job.mvc-095f
Heres a couple of shots of the locking mechanism on the movable jaw. The half-ball rides on an angled ramp that pulls the movable jaw down when tightening. This small detail is what sets Kurt vises apart from their Chinee clones. Here you get a good idea of just how much crap accumulates in the hidden recesses of your vise.mvc-096f
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The first step was to flat file with a very fine toothed mill file to get all the dings and divot off. Five minutes work took all the high spots off so it would sit flat and mate together nicely. No major surgery here.

***UPDATE 8-4-2013***

I’ve had quite a few Emails chastising me for raping my vise by dragging a wood rasp across it. To be clear: this is a VERY fine 2 inch wide mill file with very sharp, very shallow teeth, designed for removing high spots on precision surfaces. While alot of time was spent drawing the file across the vise, the only thing removed was high spots and burrs. Once they are gone, the file just glides across the surface.

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Next, getting the burrs off the fixed jaw with the fine file, then a stone.mvc-104f
Then the base gets the same treatment.mvc-105f
Heres a shot about 1/2 way through stoning the ways on the base of the vise. There is a couple of pits in the way due to coolant erosion, so its never gonna be perfect. The ways are smooth with no high spots, and I’m happy with them.
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Stoning the movable jaw is next.
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Chasing all the threads………….
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Heres everything cleaned, smooth, and ready to go together.
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Heres a couple of shots of the screw, and the new torrington bearings included in the kit, and as installed (shim-bearing-shim).
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Reinstalling the locking collar with a couple of thousanths clearance.
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And the base of the movable jaw.
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to reinstall the top part of the movable jaw, first grease the 1/2 ball in the tapered part of the locking tang.
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Then place vise jaw like this….
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Then tip the jaw towards the front, and pull towards the front at the same time. This will join the two locking tangs.
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Then install the allen set screw to keep the two parts of the jaw together. You will need to leave about an 1/8 of an inch of play (maybe back the screw out one turn), other wise the slide will bind. The ball acts as a fulcrum to lock the jaw to the way, and that is the way its designed to work. Just leave a little play in the screw, so you can assemble the vise, and play with the adjustment later.
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Install the fixed jaw.
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Then the cap that keeps chips out of the screw.
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Now you can install the new jaws. First the fixed jaw.

***UPDATE 8-4-2013***

I’ve been told that the Kurt manual tells the rebuilder to put the vise in a press to preload the jaw against the way before torqueing the jaws down. Presumably, this is to register the jaw tight to the way for accuracy and repeatability. This makes perfect sense to me, but as I didn’t have this info when this article was written, I just held it down with hand pressure when I tightened the jaw. Additionally, I didn’t torque the jaws, merely locked them down tight.
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Then the movable jaw. I put a sheet of paper under this (sliding) jaw to keep it off the ways.
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There Ya go, now onto the base.
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First, install the keys. This will keep the base pefectly indexed to the table on your machine.
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Then install the T-bolts for the vise.
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Then apply a little way oil to the sliding surfaces before dropping the vise on. Be sure to use a wood block, so you don’t damage the new table keys.
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Set your angle to zero degrees.
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And tighten her down.
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Here it is temporarily mounted to the mill, using the T-bolts from the Chinee vice. The old bolts are too short, because this base is thicker, and I will change them shortly. I haven’t trammed it yet, but just threw an indicator on it real quick, and it looks to be real close right outta the box. I’m happy. All that is left is to fit new bolts, and make some chips!
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I did not intend to restore this vise to Concours condition, I just wanted to make it right, with a minimal expenditure of time and money. For about $225 total cash outlay (that includes the price of the vise), and an afternoon and a half of labor, I’m happy with the results. The vise has a much stiffer feel than the old one, and grabs my work much tighter. The jaw contacts the work, and locks tight within 1/8 turn, and feels like a bank vault. I can’t help but feel that it will improve the quality of the work going out of the shop. I can hope, anyway………………

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BlueChip’s New Blog

Tonight is a bit of a departure for me. I have never “blogged” before. I do this at the request of my webmaster, Dale, who swears this will make me into an internet superstar. Hes been working hard to initiate the features on this website even though he knows his version is probably better than mine. Thanks for putting up with my “web design” Dale.

My name is Mick Finch, and I am a gearhead. I spent too many years as a transmission rebuilder, and recently bailed on that profession for an easier life. Over the years I’ve done alot of jobs that always seemed to involve metalworking, fabricating, and mechanical mayhem. I grew up, the son of a child of the Depression, who knew how to stretch a buck, and handed down his collection of tools to me. If there was ever a time to say “Thanks” to the Old Man, I’d say this is it. The economy is in the toilet, and any time I can make the month run out before the paycheck does is a blessing. That’s basically what this site is all about.

Over the years I’ve used the Old Man’s tools to bail my @ss out many times. I’ve stumbled into a few good deals on some great machines myself, and just can’t refuse a bargain, no matter how much the machine weighs. The shop is full of American machine tools, and that’s the way I’d like to keep it. Dad use to tell me not to buy junk unless I wanted to buy it twice. I will admit to a few “offshore” tools, but they are in the minority. I’d rather buy a solid machine, and spend the money putting it right, than buy Wang Pow a new Mercedes. In my shop you will find South Bend, Bridgeport, K.O. Lee, Kurt, Rockwell, Snap-On, Matco, Craftsman, Lincoln, etc. You won’t find many Chinese tools, but you will find some. When money allows, they will be passed on to another entrepreneur.

My machines are in a constant state of upgrade. My South Bend 13″ is getting ready for a new compound feed screw, and an “economy priced” Digital Read Out. The Bridgeport mill is going to get a Power Draw Bar installed from a kit plan from eBay. The K.O. Lee surface grinder is ready for a table and magnetic chuck regrind, and gonna be tooled up to regrind mill bits. All this stuff will get done, but is gonna get fit in between the shop re-organization that is under way right now. I started rewiring the shop, because my homemade Rotary Phase Converter was kinda hob-knobbed together. One thing led to another, and the shop got torn apart, but I’m working on it.

Right now the machines are idle, and I’m not producing anything of real consequence, but I’m gonna try to document some of the improvements to my machines with the help of my son. Photography to follow, maybe some video. We’ll see.

The store section of the site will contain items that will make the gagetizer’s life easier. Right now I have Mobil lubricants (Way and Spindle Oil), Gets Oil Hole Covers, and Lathe Way Wiper Felt for your lathe, mill, or grinder. I plan to add some specialized hardware that anyone rebuilding on old machine might need (be patient). If I have to buy a gross of something to get a decent price on them, they will probably be offered up in the store section at a substantial savings. The store needs some work right now, but I’m workin on it. Shipping will be at cost, or as close to it as I can manage. I can’t stand those clowns that offer “bargains”, and screw you on shipping. Won’t happen here. You ordered it now, I assume you want it NOW, right? I like to get stuff I order fast, I will ship anything ordered FAST. Check my feedback on Ebay under the user ID bluechipmachineshop.

I’ve got a few irons in the fire right now, but I’m stepping up the schedule. My plans are to resume making Transmission Rebuilding Tools soon, and maybe a few lathe accessories like carriage stops, T slot bases with studs for quick change tool holders, and spindle thread protectors, and maybe a few other things.

If anybody besides my kids, or Dale read this blog, and find problems with the site, I’d sure like them to let me know. The wife hates it when I talk to myself………………………………………

Look for future topics including:

  • Old lathe information
  • Machining Projects
  • Machine Maintenance
  • Workshop tips and tricks
  • Transmission Repairs

Stay in touch to see updates!

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